Article 15606 of alt.sex.cthulhu: From: Don Juneau Newsgroups: alt.sex.cthulhu Subject: Re: POD: NetCadet Nellis seeks assistance Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 23:21:55 -0600 On 29-Mar-97, Andrew Nellis wrote: >The problem is this: I'm on the National Capital FreeNet, so I have no actual >telnet access. Telnet helps an awful lot - I've got a SLIP connect locally, and using my system (Commodore Amiga 500) I can multitask when needed - have a traceroute running while I edit a mail/news post, and all that. My primary account is a telnet unlimited at Illuminati Online, for ten bucks (US) and change per month. (I pay extra and leech up an extra 25 meg of disk. ) >I've gone as far as I can by e-mailing postmasters. The ones >that remain are infamous spammers like vol.it, gte.net, and >earthlink.net. Earthlink was apparently getting their spammers under control, but lost it big-time lately. (Scuttlebutt fron n.a.n-a.m.) GTE I misremember, but from what I've heard vol.it is an "open server" for NNTP, and so anyone can connect and read/post. (I may be wrong, or it may have changed.) >Is there anything else I can do with the resources I have? Frankly, I'm >getting tired of spending two hours a night e-mailing postmasters who >don't give a damn that their users are vandalizing our newsgroup. That's about the best that can be done at this time, unless you decide to start CC:'ing those who provide the "rogue" site with connectivity, or those who supply the _advertised_ site. (Always remember to CC: in the site-advertised or it's host; some places will whack the site for spamming _or_ contracting to have it done elsewhere. ) >Incidentally, I am amazed to speechlessness that there are people who >actually *support* the spammers. Some people, like me, have no access to >things like killfiles. I'm at 2400 bps, so paging through screen after >screen of badly-spelled sex line desecration is unbelievably tedious. <*YEEK*> I've gotten incredibly sick of it at 14.4 and that's skimming the Subject:/From: in Pine. I can only imagine what you're going through... are you 2400 due to modem or due to the Freenet? >It is beyond me how anyone in their right mind could equate Sexzilla >killing what was once a very popular newsgroup through spam-bombing with >freedom of speech. Actually, it isn't a freedom of speech issue; it's a free-advertising-by-making-others-pay-for-it issue, same as Unsolicited Bulk Email (aka Unwanted Bull Excreta, as I've been sig'ing in my reports of same ). Ask whoever gives you that line if they feel that your paying their advertisement costs is what the Founding Fathers meant. And if so, ask when they'll pay for all the ads you wish to forward to them... I would almost call for two things - a modification to the a.s.c. charter and FAQ suggesting that "modified" spammage or replies in true Shambling- Horror spirit be CC:'d to the spammer's/spam-site's admins, and full warning of said charter/FAQ be announced well in advance. The other thing is the last-ditch option, retromoderation cancelbot. And gee, all those crossposted sex ads would disappear from the crossposted groups as well.... Cancelbot is easy; just have to find a site to host it, and an operator.. but the more entertaining (and faithful to a.s.c.) option is also the one most likely to kill accounts. I'd put the question to news.admin.net-abuse.usenet, or n.a.n-a.misc perhaps, and see what Real Sysadmins think of the idea; "fun" replies, replete with sacrifices, blood atonement, and incoherently horrible violations of and by Them What Hate Spam And Elder Signs might be taken as threats or mail-abuse... Puling mortals. Where it might get even more entertaining is a combination: cancelbot to nuke, but also to append some pseudopoddic frothing rants - possibly random-generated, and including parts of the spam itself - as a reply/report. Binaries excised, the cancel-notices would be posted to the group for appreciation and commentary; additions and tweaking suggestions from the NG would be implemented where possible. ("Shoggoths and shoggettes! Help write the Pnakotic Cancelbot Manuscripts! 5k or so of appropriate text, to be cut, sliced, taped, spliced, threaded, remixed and blended into a seamless mindblasting whole!") Ahh, Dreams of a "Hot Bitch!"-less House... Don -- Whaddya MEAN, I need a signature?